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Satel APP - Dmitry - 16.10.2017

I glad to inform all LogicMachine users that intial version of Satel APP (LogicMachine application for Satel Security System Integra and KNX integration) was released.

This application was developed to avoid the Satel INT-KNX2 module limitations and to integrate the following security system functions into the KNX based home automation systems:
  • Checking of security system zone states. For each Satel detector the application generates a virtual KNX group address. The KNX data point type is a byte. The supported states: ready, violation, alarm, bypassed;
  • Checking of security system partition states. The LogicMachine application reads following partition states: armed, alarm, fire alarm. For storing the partition states three KNX object are used: the first one for indicating armed partitions, the second one for indicating partition alarms and the last one for indicating fire alarms. The type of KNX objects is a 4bytes unsigned integer. Each bit of a KNX object is a flag indicating partition states.
  • Bypassing zones. The Satel security system allows to bypass sensors in two ways. You can: 1) inhibit zone - the inhibited zone is bypassed until the partition is disarmed; 2) isolate zone - the isolated zone remains disabled until is unbypassed by the user. For each type of zone bypassing a KNX group address with unsigned byte data point type is generated. If you want to bypass a zone send its number to the corresponding KNX object.
  • Arming/disarming/clearing partition alarm. In order to control the state of partitions, the application generates the KNX group addresses for each command (arm, disarm, clear alarm). Sending partition number to the corresponding KNX object changes partition state. Type of KNX group address is unsigned byte.
  • Triggering outputs. The KNX sensors can be used as Satel security detectors by creating virtual zones which are violated upon changing the output state. For triggering an output send its number to the corresponding KNX object.
  • Reading event log. The Application allows to read the event texts from the event log and handle them by LogicMachine (saved locally or transmitted to the external Security or SmartHome systems). The language of the read events corresponds to the DloadX software language version. The Number of events received within one reading transaction and the reading frequency are configurable. For event text processing the KNX group address 255 ASCII Bytes is used by the LogicMachine.
Application is charchable and available via LM Application Store.

Please feel free ask any questions and feedback related with Satel APP

Dmitry.


RE: Satel APP - buuuudzik - 16.10.2017

(16.10.2017, 14:17)Dmitry Wrote: I glad to inform all LogicMachine users that intial version of Satel APP (LogicMachine application for Satel Security System and KNX integration) was released.

This application was developed to avoid the Satel INT-KNX2 module limitations and to integrate the following security system functions into the KNX based home automation systems:
  • Checking of security system zone states. For each Satel detector the application generates a virtual KNX group address. The KNX data point type is a byte. The supported states: ready, violation, alarm, bypassed;
  • Checking of security system partition states. The LogicMachine application reads following partition states: armed, alarm, fire alarm. For storing the partition states three KNX object are used: the first one for indicating armed partitions, the second one for indicating partition alarms and the last one for indicating fire alarms. The type of KNX objects is a 4bytes unsigned integer. Each bit of a KNX object is a flag indicating partition states.
  • Bypassing zones. The Satel security system allows to bypass sensors in two ways. You can: 1) inhibit zone - the inhibited zone is bypassed until the partition is disarmed; 2) isolate zone - the isolated zone remains disabled until is unbypassed by the user. For each type of zone bypassing a KNX group address with unsigned byte data point type is generated. If you want to bypass a zone send its number to the corresponding KNX object.
  • Arming/disarming/clearing partition alarm. In order to control the state of partitions, the application generates the KNX group addresses for each command (arm, disarm, clear alarm). Sending partition number to the corresponding KNX object changes partition state. Type of KNX group address is unsigned byte.
  • Triggering outputs. The KNX sensors can be used as Satel security detectors by creating virtual zones which are violated upon changing the output state. For triggering an output send its number to the corresponding KNX object.
  • Reading event log. The Application allows to read the event texts from the event log and handle them by LogicMachine (saved locally or transmitted to the external Security or SmartHome systems). The language of the read events corresponds to the DloadX software language version. The Number of events received within one reading transaction and the reading frequency are configurable. For event text processing the KNX group address 255 ASCII Bytes is used by the LogicMachine.
Application is charchable and available via LM Application Store.

Please feel free ask any questions and feedback related with Satel APP

Dmitry.

What is the price a how we can buy it? And also is this app works over HTTP or HTTPS?


RE: Satel APP - Dmitry - 16.10.2017

TCP Sockets are used. Encryption is planned in future.

For the moment we are using VPN for access to LAN with Satel ETHM1-Plus module installed.

Please contact with your LM Distributor for pricing.


RE: Satel APP - Thinklight - 16.10.2017

What about Activation code and License file where can I get this file?
   


RE: Satel APP - Dmitry - 17.10.2017

Licence file is generated based on Activation code by Liccening center after application purchasing.


RE: Satel APP - Thinklight - 18.10.2017

(17.10.2017, 13:35)Dmitry Wrote: Licence file is generated based on Activation code by Liccening center after application purchasing.

Can you explain where I need send my Activation code? And what a price for this license?


RE: Satel APP - Dmitry - 18.10.2017

Dear All, let me provide you some additional info, describing Satel APP advantages:
1) Satel INT-KNX2 module can be used to integrate Satel Secure System Integra into Smart Home & IoT Systems, but it has some limitations. At each module up to 64 KNX group addresses can be configured. To pass throug this module the state of each secure zone, four KNX objects should be used - ready, violated, bypassed and alarmed.

For example we have Secure System Integra  with 35 zones, to control all states of these zones from Smart Home Visualisation we have to configure 140 group KNX addresses. But Satel INT-KNX2 module limit is 64.

You say - put into project three INT-KNX-V2 modules - yes, it is possible, but we will met another Satel Secure System Integra limitation - becasue of each KNX group address is connected to separated Satel virtual output, depend on type of Integra (32/64/128 or 256) the number of virtual outputs is limited by 32/64/128 and 256 correspondingly.

For example we have object with 40 real secure zones and Integra 64 can be used to secure object without Smart Home integration. To integrate this secure system into Smart Home and provide home owners ability of checking states of all zones from iPad, we will be forced to add four Satel INT-KNX V2 modules (40 zones * 4 states = 160 objects). Besides that each KNX objects in that case should correspond Satel virtual output - as result 160 outputs. That fact forces us to purchase more expensive Integra 256 Plus. To resolve this Integration task using our application, only INT-ETHM 1 Plus module and Satel APP should be purchased.

2) INT-KNX V2 module unable to extract Secure System event log. Satel APP is able. You can display all events at visualisation or store to external system for analysis (additional scripting is required).

3) You can use cheap (in front of KNX) Satel movement, window and water sensors in connections with KNX actuators to provide end users more cost effective and functional solutions.

For the moment we put into projects both modules: INT-KNX V2 - for critical events and control and INT-ETHM 1 Plus for visualisation and event log, But Satel APP allows to use the only INT-ETHM 1 Plus module.

Please check attachment with real example of integration, working from 2016 and application configurator interface.

   

   

For ordering please contact: apps.shop@lm.net.ru

The cost of application is 215 USD. Discount certificates are also available.


RE: Satel APP - Dmitry - 25.10.2017

To purchase the licence:
1) Install Application;
2) Generate Activation code;
3) Send activation code (and discount vaucher if exist) to apps.shop@lm.net.ru
4) Receive invoice. Pay for app
5) Receive the Liscence file. Load it into Application and activate.


RE: Satel APP - Dmitry - 06.01.2018

One more project with Satel APP was launched Angel

Alarm System, Access Control and also Mobotix T25 Shock Sensor was integrated into Satel as virtual zone.


Satel APP - Habib - 08.01.2018

Is an installation on an Schneider homeLYnk or spaceLYnk possible? I need it maybe for an custumer.


RE: Satel APP - Dmitry - 11.01.2018

Habib,yes, it is possible. We will provide you details soon.


RE: Satel APP - Dmitry - 19.02.2018

Dear Habib, Satel Application is visible for spaceLYnk now


RE: Satel APP - Habib - 08.04.2018

Thank you. I offered it to my customer. We will see if he order it :-)


RE: Satel APP - Vik - 21.06.2022

Hello,
I would like to know if we can integrate the Satel Versa or perfecta systems too .
Regards ,
Vikram


RE: Satel APP - WinchKing - 25.08.2022

(19.02.2018, 08:46)Dmitry Wrote: Dear Habib, Satel Application is visible for spaceLYnk now

Dear Dmitry, 

Can it also be ported to W4K/HL? Or is it possible to side load it on a W4K/HL?


RE: Satel APP - Dmitry - 02.09.2022

(21.06.2022, 02:41)Vik Wrote: Hello,
I would like to know if we can integrate the Satel Versa or perfecta systems too .
Regards ,
Vikram

Hello, Vikram

Unfortunately solution was not tested with Versa or Perfecta. 

And accordingly official Satel documentation only Integra is supported.

Regards,
Dmitry