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ets more than one device is in programming mode - gjniewenhuijse - 24.09.2018
I have problems when programming a device address in ETS5 with my homelynk (2.3.0). Application programming works great.
I received: more than one device is in programming mode, but thats not true.
When i disconnect my HL from the knx bus and when i add a usb programming device it works.
When i do a device programming check in ets it gives: 15.15.255(*2)
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Quick and dirty topology is added as attachement.
I have one head line 1.0
3 sublines after a jung line coupler 1.1, 1.11, 1.13
Line 1.1 has a lot of devices, so also a jung repeater is added.
Also my HL ip and knx settings are added as attachement.
How to solve this?
RE: ets more than one device is in programming mode - domotiqa - 24.09.2018
try homelynk on 1.0, then unplug all line. And test every time you plug each line !
RE: ets more than one device is in programming mode - Erwin van der Zwart - 24.09.2018
Hi,
Couplers always need address 0 and repeaters are typically given there correct topological address 64, 128 and 192 so the addresses like 1.1.11, 1.1.13 and 1.1.100 are invalid..
Your line couplers need to be 1.1.0, 1.2.0, 1.3.0 and your repeaters 1.1.64, 1.2.64, 1.3.64
BR,
Erwin
RE: ets more than one device is in programming mode - gjniewenhuijse - 25.09.2018
(24.09.2018, 16:46)domotiqa Wrote: try homelynk on 1.0, then unplug all line. And test every time you plug each line !
Already tested, but no solution.
When the HL is connected i receive this message.
(24.09.2018, 17:36)Erwin van der Zwart Wrote: Hi,
Couplers always need address 0 and repeaters are typically given there correct topological address 64, 128 and 192 so the addresses like 1.1.11, 1.1.13 and 1.1.100 are invalid..
Your line couplers need to be 1.1.0, 1.2.0, 1.3.0 and your repeaters 1.1.64, 1.2.64, 1.3.64
BR,
Erwin
You're right, this is already the case, except the repeater.
Couplers have the follow addresses:
line 1.1, address 1.1.0
line 1.11, address 1.11.0
line 1.13, address 1.13.0
Repeater on 1.1.64 or 1.1.128 doesn't matter. I disconnected the whole line and the problem existst.
And with another ip or usb programming device it works great.
RE: ets more than one device is in programming mode - buuuudzik - 25.09.2018
(25.09.2018, 06:09)gjniewenhuijse Wrote:(24.09.2018, 16:46)domotiqa Wrote: try homelynk on 1.0, then unplug all line. And test every time you plug each line !
Already tested, but no solution.
When the HL is connected i receive this message.
(24.09.2018, 17:36)Erwin van der Zwart Wrote: Hi,
Couplers always need address 0 and repeaters are typically given there correct topological address 64, 128 and 192 so the addresses like 1.1.11, 1.1.13 and 1.1.100 are invalid..
Your line couplers need to be 1.1.0, 1.2.0, 1.3.0 and your repeaters 1.1.64, 1.2.64, 1.3.64
BR,
Erwin
You're right, this is already the case, except the repeater.
Couplers have the follow addresses:
line 1.1, address 1.1.0
line 1.11, address 1.11.0
line 1.13, address 1.13.0
Repeater on 1.1.64 or 1.1.128 doesn't matter. I disconnected the whole line and the problem existst.
And with another ip or usb programming device it works great.
I've learned on KNX advanced course that with some repeaters it could be important to address properly all devices so devices before first repeater(1.1.64) should have addresses from 1.1.1-63, and after it should have addresses from 1.1.65-127 etc.
RE: ets more than one device is in programming mode - gjniewenhuijse - 25.09.2018
I thinks al devices are TP-256 devices, so you can have more then 64 devices in a segment.
RE: ets more than one device is in programming mode - buuuudzik - 25.09.2018
Yes, but they're order when you have specific repeater which is not so flexible can not work properly(such strange things when programming) when you have address 1.1.70 before repeater with address 1.1.64.
RE: ets more than one device is in programming mode - gjniewenhuijse - 25.09.2018
(25.09.2018, 08:41)buuuudzik Wrote: Yes, but they're order when you have specific repeater which is not so flexible can not work properly(such strange things when programming) when you have address 1.1.70 before repeater with address 1.1.64.
I think its more HL related, because:
- programming with another device (ip or usb) doesn't work if the HL is connected to the bus
- removing the HL from the bus and program an address with another device (ip or usb) works great.
RE: ets more than one device is in programming mode - Daniel - 25.09.2018
Do you have another IP router connected to the bus at the same time? If yes then disconnect it as you can have only one.
RE: ets more than one device is in programming mode - gjniewenhuijse - 25.09.2018
(25.09.2018, 09:29)Daniel. Wrote: Do you have another IP router connected to the bus at the same time? If yes then disconnect it as you can have only one.
Problem found!
Another device in the knx bus (pi with homebridge and knxd).
If i shutdown this device it works, but why?
This device with other ip/usb programming device works great.
I know knxd and eibd are about the same.
RE: ets more than one device is in programming mode - Daniel - 25.09.2018
IP/USB interface looks only on TP where LM looks on TP and IP at the same time. As this device was on IP you have your answer.
RE: ets more than one device is in programming mode - Erwin van der Zwart - 25.09.2018
Hi Gert Jan,
When you have 2 devices in the same line that has a TP and also a IP connection you create a loop, any telegram on the TP is repeated on the IP side and then the other device puts it from IP to the TP again (infinity loop). Basically you create a double line/backbone. Only solution to this is disable KNX IP in one of the 2 devices.
BR,
Erwin
RE: ets more than one device is in programming mode - domotiqa - 26.09.2018
you should use on the RPI the knx/ip interface of the LM
RE: ets more than one device is in programming mode - gjniewenhuijse - 26.09.2018
(25.09.2018, 17:47)Erwin van der Zwart Wrote: Hi Gert Jan,
When you have 2 devices in the same line that has a TP and also a IP connection you create a loop, any telegram on the TP is repeated on the IP side and then the other device puts it from IP to the TP again (infinity loop). Basically you create a double line/backbone. Only solution to this is disable KNX IP in one of the 2 devices.
BR,
Erwin
Only the HL has a TP connection.
The other device has a non multicast connection to the HL. When i change this to a multicast connection it works. Very strange.