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Version question - zuuper - 26.11.2019

Hi,

Whats the diff between Schneider Wiser for KNF and LogicMachine5?
I know W4K has a much higher price, but why and whats diffs?

My second question,
How can I find the version of LogicMachine5 Reactor GSM for KNX? I can only find with CAN FT. Every pictures of the product show with CAN FT :S


Best regards, Alexander


RE: Version question - Daniel - 26.11.2019

Hi
It is pretty much the same. With LM you have some more apps. SE has also some specific apps for them self.
The Reactor GSM can be ordered in both versions, CAN FT or KNX, just specify which one you want.
LogicMachine5 Reactor GSM Power CANxLM5p-GMSC
LogicMachine5 Reactor GSM Power KNXLM5p-GMS
It is written in datasheet Smile
BR


RE: Version question - zuuper - 26.11.2019

(26.11.2019, 12:44)Daniel. Wrote: Hi
It is pretty much the same. With LM you have some more apps. SE has also some specific apps for them self.
The Reactor GSM can be ordered in both versions, CAN FT or KNX, just specify which one you want.
LogicMachine5 Reactor GSM Power CANxLM5p-GMSC
LogicMachine5 Reactor GSM Power KNXLM5p-GMS
It is written in datasheet Smile
BR


If you look at:
[/url][url=https://download.schneider-electric.com/files?p_enDocType=Brochure&p_File_Name=998-20119685_GMA-GB-+Comparison+WiserKNX+%26+SpaceLYnk.pdf&p_Doc_Ref=998-20119685_GMA-GB]https://download.schneider-electric.com/files?p_enDocType=Brochure&p_File_Name=998-20119685_GMA-GB-+Comparison+WiserKNX+%26+SpaceLYnk.pdf&p_Doc_Ref=998-20119685_GMA-GB

Then you will see that W4K has a limit of 8 users. spaceLYnk has a limit of 50 users.
How many users have LM5 restrictions for?
W4K lacks support for IP / TP KNX filtering, is there in LM5?


RE: Version question - Daniel - 27.11.2019

Well, the latest SE hardware is the same as LM. Software core is the same. This numbers were done based on some SE tests. Over the time there was 3 version of hardware. I don't know which version of HW they tested but most likely not the latest.


RE: Version question - zuuper - 27.11.2019

(27.11.2019, 07:40)Daniel. Wrote: Well, the latest SE hardware is the same as LM. Software core is the same.  This numbers were done based on some SE tests. Over the time there was 3 version of hardware. I don't know which version of HW they tested but most likely not the latest.


But if I want at least 50 users, can I buy LM for that?


RE: Version question - admin - 27.11.2019

LM has no defined limits in software


RE: Version question - Erwin van der Zwart - 28.11.2019

Hi,

W4K has a limit in the 'unique' users you can create, this limitation is not in spaceLYnk just like the LM, the number of concurrent users is equal in all controllers and is also depending on the CPU model. HW3 has the most powerfull CPU and can (logical) handle more then a HW1 controller with older CPU model.

We tested the load for a longer term, when a visu is open the client's websocket is actively communicating with the controller and this basically determines the number of concurrent users.

If you have users with mobile phones the average total number is a lot higher then when using wall mounted panels as a phone only communicates with the controller during the usage where a wall mounted panel is always communicating.

BR,

Erwin


RE: Version question - L_R - 03.06.2024

(28.11.2019, 10:48)Erwin van der Zwart Wrote: Hi,

W4K has a limit in the 'unique' users you can create, this limitation is not in spaceLYnk just like the LM, the number of concurrent users is equal in all controllers and is also depending on the CPU model. HW3 has the most powerfull CPU and can (logical) handle more then a HW1 controller with older CPU model.

We tested the load for a longer term, when a visu is open the client's websocket is actively communicating with the controller and this basically determines the number of concurrent users.

If you have users with mobile phones the average total number is a lot higher then when using wall mounted panels as a phone only communicates with the controller during the usage where a wall mounted panel is always communicating.

BR,

Erwin

Hi, do you know if we can use the LM apps in the Wiser 4 KNX ? 

Thanks


RE: Version question - Erwin van der Zwart - 04.06.2024

Most of them are working, but not all of them..