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Energy Management by Wiser
#1
Hi,

I'm looking for a way to get as much information as possible on my energy consumption.

I came across 'Energy Management System' by Wiser ( https://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range-presentation/62107-wiser-energy/  ) but I cannot find much information on how to get at the data that is collects.
There is of course the app, but I would prefer to have this integrated in my KNX system using LM.

Does someone have any experience with this?

Thanks.
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#2
Hi,

Wiser Energy is a part of the new Schneider Electric platform 'Wiser' for residential.

The system will exist of the modules Light, Heat, Energy and Door. The plan is to make this compatible with Wiser for KNX.

The system is not launched in the Netherlands before end of this year so i have not played with it yet.

I will ask the team for more info on the API, i will see them next Thursday. You need the Wiser Home Touch as gateway to the Zigbee products. The Wiser Energy has his own NIC so probably we can link directly to the Energy module.

BR,

Erwin
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#3
(23.03.2019, 14:54)Erwin van der Zwart Wrote: Hi,

Wiser Energy is a part of the new Schneider Electric platform 'Wiser' for residential.

The system will exist of the modules Light, Heat, Energy and Door. The plan is to make this compatible with Wiser for KNX.

The system is not launched in the Netherlands before end of this year so i have not played with it yet.

I will ask the team for more info on the API, i will see them next Thursday. You need the Wiser Home Touch as gateway to the Zigbee products. The Wiser Energy has his own NIC so probably we can link directly to the Energy module.

BR,

Erwin

Thanks, in Belgium it seems to be available already, or at least announced...
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#4
Hi,

I think you can do your power metering a little faster than wait new products Smile You can try to find "Power Tag" solution from Schneider.

We can install this solution very easily to existing cabinet. Idea - one receiver in cabinet with network connection and some wireless modules (1 or 3 phases) connected directly to your circuit breakers. They measure current and voltage, and of course consumpted power. Main module has Modbus over TCP - I think no any problem create profile and connect to LM. In this system also exist curcuit breakers you can on/off through main module.. I was very surprised during presentation and testing of this system..

Some info below:

https://www.schneider-electric.com/en/pr...g/?Nrpp=40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hOWEp4bGFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmMe8W427_I

Price also is interesting enough.

For main input control in my house I use "Janitza" PM device I connected to Schneider Modbus/Network gateway and created profile for it. But in my case I need additionally use current tranformers to measure current.

My device:

https://www.janitza.com/umg-103-cbm.html

BR,

Alexander
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#5
Hi,

True, we have a lot of products to do power measurement, all with there own specific measurement quality and build in features.

Wiser has been developped for the residential market and based on the requirements in that segment.
This results in a perfect balance of price and functionallity and makes Wiser a much cheaper solution then the powertags, both products will do the job but, for the residential market, most of the time a high accurency product like the powertag will be to expensive.

Glad to hear powertag is on a good price level in your opinion, i personally would use it instead of wiser  because of the easy installing, but reality is that majority of the market makes their selection based on price.

BR,

Erwin
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#6
Erwin,

big thanks for additional info, now will know about new possibilities from Schneider and will ask local representatives to test new devices when available.

BR,

Alexander
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#7
Hi,
I use Modbus TCP between Smartlink SI D and HL KNX, i would like to create a Energy Dashboard to show : Daily Energy usage, Monthly Energy Usage, Total Energy usage.
How can I do that??
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#8
Hi,

Create trends on your datapoints and use this methode to fetch any data from the trendlog to use for visualisation of x period.

http://openrb.com/docs/trends-new.htm

BR,

Erwin
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#9
Thanks Erwin,

How’s about the “Wiser IP Module” and “PowerTag Link C”? What’s different about them? .

Can they integrate with LM?
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#10
Hi,

Wiser IP module, i assume you mean the EER31600 is for Wiser Energy, a low cost energy management system for residential usage. I'm not sure this device talks Modbus as it's intended as gateway between the Wiser Energy App and the energy system.

PowerTag Link C is the new name of the SmartLink SI-D as we only use it for PowerTags so the name PowerTag Link makes more sense (: This device talks Modbus IP and can be connected to a W4K, SL or LM.

BR,

Erwin
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#11
Actually this wiser is already integrated with w4k. As it was available only in France only French front office has packages to install. Contact SE level 3 support and they should be able to share it.
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