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hotel project - davidchispas - 20.06.2020

Hello, 
what do you recommend me to do an access control for hotel clients? Is there an LM compatible component for card recording? I hope you can guide me a little towards how to direct this project ... Smile


RE: hotel project - Erwin van der Zwart - 20.06.2020

Hi,

We as Schneider are using Ecostruxure Security Expert to do this, this is not a KNX based solution, we integrate this to our BMS with our SmartConnector (SOAP webservices integration), and usually i recommand to use that.

If you want a full KNX solution you might want to look at https://www.eelectron.com/en/products/access-control/, in the past we branded this product as a Schneider KNX solution but we stopped the partnership due to not enough pull through of the product, however its a nice solution and i even integrated it direct to our Wiser for KNX including the card management (:

BR,

Erwin


RE: hotel project - cekca - 23.06.2020

(20.06.2020, 15:10)Erwin van der Zwart Wrote: Hi,

We as Schneider are using Ecostruxure Security Expert to do this, this is not a KNX based solution, we integrate this to our BMS with our SmartConnector (SOAP webservices integration), and usually i recommand to use that.

If you want a full KNX solution you might want to look at https://www.eelectron.com/en/products/access-control/, in the past we branded this product as a Schneider KNX solution but we stopped the partnership due to not enough pull through of the product, however its a nice solution and i even integrated it direct to our Wiser for KNX including the card management (:

BR,

Erwin

Hi Erwin, how did you manage the 10 bytes objects?


RE: hotel project - Erwin van der Zwart - 23.06.2020

Hi,

Just use the 250 byte object, it acts as a RAW DPT, The object sends value in length of entered value, so if you fill in 3 bytes and monitor the value in the ETS you will see a 3 byte value, when sending a value of 10 bytes lenght you will see a 10 byte value in the ETS monitor, same counts for received values.

BR,

Erwin


RE: hotel project - cekca - 23.06.2020

(23.06.2020, 06:26)Erwin van der Zwart Wrote: Hi,

Just use the 250 byte object, it acts as a RAW DPT, The object sends value in length of entered value, so if you fill in 3 bytes and monitor the value in the ETS you will see a 3 byte value, when sending a value of 10 bytes lenght you will see a 10 byte value in the ETS monitor, same counts for received values.

BR,

Erwin

could send me a example in pvt ? how is the encoding of the 10 bytes object?


RE: hotel project - Erwin van der Zwart - 23.06.2020

Hi,

Do you refer to the 10 byte value of the access control reader?

If yes i can give you a user lib with the function to decode it without the source, i have the decoding protocol but is under NDA.

BR,

Erwin


RE: hotel project - cekca - 23.06.2020

YES... thank you
how do you encode the card? with the usb reader?


RE: hotel project - Erwin van der Zwart - 23.06.2020

Normally you do this with Esuite, it’s possible from USB but far from practical as the reader should be connected to the usb port of the controller, during card creation there will be a 10 byte sended to the readers but you also need to send removal telegrams to the readers when dates are expired, i would not recommand to do this without a software suite..

I created the script to arrange this for small projects with a few doors and mostly static cards, for a hotel with high dynamic cards you need the software in my opinion..

BR,

Erwin


RE: hotel project - cekca - 25.06.2020

We have 4 our project with esuite ( B&B with 5 rooms ) and 1 schneider project with 82 apartments.
Now we start another project in Venice with 125 rooms, always with esuit.

i would like to test the script only for the door of my office!!! I don't want to test with customers...

BR
Marco


RE: hotel project - merel - 26.06.2020

In my opinion, it would be beneficial to implement the OSDP RS485 (secure mode) protocol into LM.

To open the lock I would use a flush mount actor with 1 relay and 3 Digital inputs for status (Tamper, door open, Door locked)